tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1343911386688836644.post753461974523047048..comments2023-03-29T02:20:45.192-07:00Comments on Asexual curiosities: On Doctor Who and Liz OneUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1343911386688836644.post-85530287129447967052010-05-18T15:00:05.048-07:002010-05-18T15:00:05.048-07:00Nine was really only romantic at all in his devoti...Nine was really only romantic at all in his devotion to Rose/kissing of same, although all of that makes sense within the substitute father figure role he embodied through their travels - I think he just seemed more romantic, to me, because of the last episode of his run, even if it isn't anything approaching overt. <br /><br />And in regards to Eight's movie... you really aren't missing much. There are so many things that either don't make sense (a trial on Skaro? For the Master? ...what?) or are just... horrifying (they made the Master into a beefy American) that it's difficult to enjoy. The only good things were the Doctor (of course) and the jelly babies he proffers near the end.Rebekahhttp://asexualadolescence.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1343911386688836644.post-35455008851225839932010-05-18T14:19:51.192-07:002010-05-18T14:19:51.192-07:00Rebekah- we'll have to agree to disagree on Li...Rebekah- we'll have to agree to disagree on Liz One's virginity (in the non-Whoniverse, that is). I love the professorish Twoishness of the new doctor, and I agree, he's delightfully ace. I think that was partly because he's very young and has a very young assistant (in a very short skirt), so it would have been too predictable, and partly because they got criticised for how far Ten went.<br /><br />As long as they never really oversexualise the Doctor, I think each of them having a different sexuality is a pretty good thing, and Ten was the most sexual so far.<br /><br />I can't remember Nine being especially romantic. Also, I've not seen Eight's movie, but I've heard the radio series, and I really can't imagine him being anything other than ace (he's my favourite).SlightlyMetaphysicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891271827553008521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1343911386688836644.post-88615094719571976552010-05-18T12:56:05.464-07:002010-05-18T12:56:05.464-07:00Blasphemy!! xD
Liz Ten, while talking about how h...Blasphemy!! xD<br /><br />Liz Ten, while talking about how her relatives brought her up on the story, says, "And so much for the virgin queen, you bad boy..." (after talking about how he had tea and scones with Liz Two, and then how Queen Victoria was "a bit on the fence" since he was knighted and exiled at once). So. There's that. <br /><br />It seems very much to me that the only truly (potentially) sexual Doctor was Ten, even with phallic references - everyone from one to seven was pretty strictly No Hugging No Kissing, then Eight really only kissed Grace from excitement (rather than, I think, any kind of romantic interest), and Nine was fairly romantic towards the end, but the bulk of his season was spent being a lovely, mad father figure. Eleven's persona strikes me very much as a "mad grandfather" redux (in the proud tradition of Two - they even have outfit parallels), who can safely be classified as asexual (and for various reasons, though most of them come from the scene at the end of "Flesh and Stone" wherein he's just entirely bewildered by Amy's advances). <br /><br />Ten is the only real exception to the Doctor as super-ace, but he's an exception in other ways, too - all of them making him the most human of any of the Doctors to date (the only real change when he actually became one in season three was that he was more subdued and less curious). Sexual relationships are often used as a means of reinforcing the humanity of a character (or lack of same as used to highlight just how abnormal they are - Ily has a post on this somewhere, wherein she mentions how most characters who could be classified as asexual are wholly removed from warm human experience (Withnail, Sheldon Cooper, others I can't remember right now)). So. <br /><br />Also! I was upset by the relationship with the Doctor and Elizabeth I (and I just... I cannot get on board, but largely for silly reasons that I will now explain) because of how much of an idol Good Queen Bess was to me when I was younger. Outside of QEI and Susan B. Anthony (whose picture, incidentally, stares down at me as I type), I didn't know of any other powerful, independent, celibate women, either actual or fictional, and having historical figures I could look up to as examples of, if not asexuality, then at least celibacy was a huge boon to my general self-confidence (and this was all before I actually came to know of and then join the asexual community). I got in yelling matches over QEI's virginity, it meant so much to me.Rebekahhttp://asexualadolescence.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1343911386688836644.post-24354203801617699592010-05-18T12:54:40.159-07:002010-05-18T12:54:40.159-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08538340021788243462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1343911386688836644.post-75366145902842371502010-05-18T09:44:29.238-07:002010-05-18T09:44:29.238-07:00liminalD, yeah, I'm the same. I'd hate to ...liminalD, yeah, I'm the same. I'd hate to see sexual/romantic tension being a defining thing that always happens in Doctor Who, because it's really nice to have some awesome non-sexual relationships (such as the one he had with Donna, the one I hope he's going to develop with Amy). However, small mentions of his sexuality off-screen don't really bother me. In fact, I find them enriching.SlightlyMetaphysicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891271827553008521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1343911386688836644.post-91153838355944408092010-05-16T20:13:17.597-07:002010-05-16T20:13:17.597-07:00Spongey's wet for Patrick.
I'm a mad Who ...Spongey's wet for Patrick.<br /><br />I'm a mad Who fan, and I totally dig the Doc/Liz One pairing, I think it's hilarious (but possibly because Miranda Richardson will forever be Queen Elizabeth to me) and makes sense in a perverse sort of way. I really liked QE1's chasing after the Doctor in a fury with the suggestion that he'd done something but hadn't done it yet (time travel - sheesh!), and when they dropped the first hint of what he'd done at the end of David Tennant's run I cracked up. And yeah, they've mentioned it a couple of times since, along with said occasional phallic references. I can cope with the Doc being on and off a sexual person, I have to admit it's refreshing NOT having every girl who jumps in the TARDIS trying to jump his bones tho. I hate how every Hollywood movie and practically every tv show has to throw in a hetero-romantic subplot, drives me barmy because it really does come across as reminding people to get back in their place and accept ordinary, prescribed, culturally-acceptable domesticity. Eurgh.liminalDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06621859737411962756noreply@blogger.com